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Additional info on 2 patients in isolation in SA

Carol@SC — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:33:10 GMT

Excerpt from article on ProMED:

On Sunday [12 Oct 2008?], Blumberg said a female nurse and a male paramedic were currently in isolation after they were in contact with the deceased.

The paramedic had contact with [the 1st case, the female from Zambia], and after developing flu-like symptoms and a fever was admitted to Flora clinic. He was subsequently transferred to Morningside Medi-clinic and diagnosed with kidney stones. On Sunday [12 Oct 2008], Blumberg said it was "less likely" he had the virus.

The 2nd person in isolation is a nurse who had contact with a paramedic that died [the 2nd patient, the male paramedic that accompanied the 1st patient to South Africa]. She has developed symptoms similar to the 3 deceased and is receiving anti-viral medication called ribavirin. The department of health said she was presently stable. Blumberg said she is "highly suspect" to have contracted the virus and could not say further how her condition was likely to progress. http://www.promedmail.org/pls/...

I should have said

ssal — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:24:17 GMT

"dotted scissors lines" instead of "a dotted scissors line"

If it weren't for tamiflu, things would be soooo much worse.

maryinhawaii — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:20:27 GMT

"In the beginning entered this room the patient's hot body, achieved 40 levels celcius." After getting intensive medical treatment, the temperature of the patient's body again was normal, said Linda in Padang, West Sumatra, on Sunday (12/10/2008).

What's going to happen as tamiflu resistance in H5N1 strains becomes more and more widespread? These kinds of cases will likely end in death, not recovery. The only wall between the world and a devastating pandemic with a 60% or better cfr is tamiflu, and when that wall finally crumbles is when weve had it, IMO.

There is a multi-use bumper sticker I'm planning to have printed up, but

ssal — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:18:56 GMT

I'm having trouble finding time getting to it, so it would be fine with me if someone else would do it and sell it. Or something similar.

To describe it:
About 3-1/2 by 11 inches, white print on a dark blue background. Three lines, each one with the text centered on the line (not left-justified as shown just below):

GetPandemicReady.org
Readymoms. org
PandemicFlu. gov

Hopefully, this sticker would simultaneously communicate both the main topic and what Web sites would be good to go to. Additionally, I plan for there to be a dotted scissors line (too small to be seen at an ordinary viewing distance) so that if the people at GPR or Readymoms want to display only their own site, they can pick up a pair of scissors and do so.

(I've had some previous experience printing and selling bumper stickers. My favorite so far: a 3-1/2 by 11, with white lettering on a dark blue background: It showed a large white, three-dimension Christian cross on the left side, with an Old English font: "Judge not ..." following it. Others have also said they like it.)

I'm still trying to figure

Clawdia — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 04:05:43 GMT

out just what it is you're trying to accomplish.

Thanks Nimbus! n/t

MaMa — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:59:58 GMT

Nowhere other than here.

ssal — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:49:40 GMT

It may be useful to glance at my "Ongoing topic summaries" diary.

http://newfluwiki2.com/showDia...

Your thoughts/suggestions?

October 13 News diary is ready n/t

Nimbus — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:44:19 GMT

buy one?

standingfirm — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:43:45 GMT

Gee, even I would buy one in support of the Readymoms :)

Please post new articles to the October 13 News diary

Nimbus — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:42:39 GMT

News Reports for October 13

Thank you!

ssal-

Readymom — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:31:44 GMT

where do you plan to disburse this list of quotes? -k

Would there be an interest -

Readymom — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:27:50 GMT

- in something like this?

Any other suggestions on fundraising items that would be enticing to folks? Just wondering ... :) If there was 'something' that was a fundraising item, what would folks be willing to purchase to help raise funds for RMA?-k

I wonder

ssal — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 03:21:05 GMT

if the Flu Wiki and in particular, GetPandemicReady.org, have considered having commercially printed T-shirts prepared and then selling them on their sites for $15-$20?

Ban on poultry from Denmark, Czech Republic, Arkansas

mojo — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:25:50 GMT

Monday, October 13, 2008 | MANILA, PHILIPPINES
The Economy
Ban on poultry from Denmark, Czech Republic, Arkansas lifted

THE AGRICULTURE department has lifted its ban on imports of poultry and poultry products from the Czech Republic, Denmark and from the US state of Arkansas, an official statement yesterday read.

The import ban on domestic and wild birds, along with poultry and its products like meat, day-old chicks, eggs and semen, was lifted after the World Organization for Animal Health (known by its French acronym, OIE) certified the areas free from bird flu.

Agriculture Secretary Arthur C. Yap said the evaluation done by the Bureau of Animal Industry showed that the risk of contamination from importing poultry products from the said areas were "negligible."

The department had imposed the import ban last May and June.
more at link
http://www.bworldonline.com/BW...

Georgia Tech models future pandemic flu

mojo — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:23:55 GMT

Georgia Tech models future pandemic flu, improves food, quarantine strategies

Published: Sunday, 12-Oct-2008

The 1918 flu pandemic killed more than 40 million people worldwide and affected persons of all age groups. While it is difficult to predict when the next influenza pandemic will occur or how severe it will be, researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology have developed models to help organizations like the American Red Cross and Georgia Department of Education prepare emergency response plans.

"The models are flexible so that multiple scenarios can be investigated to see which options meet a certain goal," said Pinar Keskinocak, an associate professor in Georgia Tech's H. Milton Stewart School of Industrial and Systems Engineering (ISyE). "This goal can be different for various groups, such as serving the most people given the availability of limited resources or minimizing the number of people infected while not negatively affecting businesses."

more at link
http://www.news-medical.net/?i...

This story is

mojo — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 02:20:58 GMT

repeated in papers in just about every country out there in my news aggregater. From Europe, Afghanistan, Indonesia, China...you name it.

monitor AI, Dinkes got up the Command Post in Jekani

mojo — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:43:46 GMT

monitor AI, Dinkes got up the Command Post in Jekani Mondokan (Expose) the vigilance Command Post avian influenza (AI) the Kesehatan Service (Dinkes) Sragen in the Jekani Village, Mondokan, Sragen was opened for two weeks in the future since Wednesday, (8/10).

The command post was established in the house of one of the residents, Wardi, as Dinkes efforts to anticipate and deal with the possibility of the AI existence in the Jekani territory pascameninggal him one of his residents, Idawati, 22, that was expected terjangkit the bird flu virus.

Espos observation, on Thursday (9/10), in the location showed several officials of the Mondokan Community Health Centre were on the alert in the related Command Post.

In the location ditempel several of the Department's posters of the Health about the danger warning of AI. Selain Itu, were seen various medicine and health equipment in the Command Post table for the resident around that memeriksakan himself.

While the Command Post was opened, the official took care to serve the resident's check-up. "Posko this as means anticipated and the early detection AI. the Official also carried out counselling to the community concerning flu burung," answered the Head of the Mondokan Community Health Centre, Dr Wahyu Kurniawan MKes.

met was separated, the Village Head (Kades) Jekani, Yudi, appealed to his resident to obey the Regional Government instruction in order to pen his poultry and not trade him freely.

As far as this is concerned, this Regional Government instruction was carried out by his resident. "Kami thought continued to have the feeling of the resident's concern of the matter of bird flu.

The matter is, the death incident of the resident as a result of the assumption of this bird flu was the first time in Jekani. Beforehand just very safe. Moreover in Jekani often was spread out by counselling and the vaccination unggas," obviously him.
http://www.solopos.co.id/sp_se...

This is new....

cottontop — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:39:58 GMT

Public release date: 17-Apr-2008

Contact: Mary Kohut
Press@plos.org
415-568-3457
Public Library of Science

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_...

Scientists discover new arenavirus associated with hemorrhagic fever

A team of Bolivian health authorities, U.S. Navy health experts based in Lima, Peru, and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has characterized "Chapare arenavirus," a previously unrecognized arenavirus, discovered in serum samples from a patient in rural Bolivia who eventually died of the infection. A full report of the study is published April 18th in the open-access journal PLoS Pathogens.

Named after the Chapare River in the eastern foothills of the Andes, the new Chapare arenavirus produces clinical hemorrhagic symptoms similar to those associated with other New World arenaviruses, such as the Junin, Machupo, Guanarito, and Sabia viruses. Genetically, however, Chapare is different from each.

Junin, Machupo and Guanarito viruses have been associated with large outbreaks of hemorrhagic fever. Initial symptoms often include fever, malaise, muscle aches, nausea, vomiting, and anorexia, followed later by hemorrhagic symptoms. Untreated, more severe neurologic and/or hemorrhagic symptoms may develop, and death occurs in up to 30%.

In this study, the authors first tested for yellow fever and dengue hemorrhagic fevers, but results were negative. Tests for Machupo and other related viruses also were negative. Sequence analysis of specific segments of the virus later confirmed it as a unique member of the Clade B New World Arenaviruses.

Due to the remote nature of the region where the case occurred, only a limited description of a possible cluster of cases in the area was determined.

"Further surveillance and ecological investigations should clarify the nature of the health threat posed by the Chapare virus, and give us better information on the source of human infection," says CDC virologist Tom Ksiazek of the Special Pathogens Branch.

"We need to learn more about this virus: how it is related to the other arenaviruses, how it causes disease, where it lives in nature," says Ksiazek. "Together with our colleagues in Bolivia and Peru, we're anticipating a more intensive investigation that improves our understanding of the virus, the disease it causes, and its ecology."

Trap Sepekan L on Sunday

mojo — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:39:41 GMT

Trap Sepekan L on Sunday (5/10)
4 PO the prayer house tarif four companies otobus (PO) the intercity route inter-province (AKAP) and intercity in the province (AKDP) in Solo violated the tariff, the Minister For Communications will then give sanctions.

L on Monday (6/10) I days the work, tens of PNS bolos Tens of PNS in the environment of regional equipment of the work unit (SKPD) the Solo Municipal Government failed on the first day the post-Lebaran work. They were dominated from ET AL and Disnaker.

L on Tuesday (7/10) tariffs parked the Syawalan Week rose 500% Tarif parked the wheel vehicle of two in the Syawalan TSTJ Week 2008 rose 500%. In accordance with Regional Regulations of No 6/2004, the Rp basic tariff 500, but the tariff parked TSTJ Rp 3,000.

L on Wednesday (8/10) Suspect AI, the resident Sragen meninggal the Patient suspect avian influenza (AI) from Sragen, Idawati, 22, died in RSUD Moewardi Solo. The Ida death was expected strong the reason for bird flu or AI.

L on Wednesday (8/10) Mayor-heir Sriwedari kompromi the Heir Sriwedari KRHT Wiryodiningrat received the compromise offer from Solo Mayor concerning the Sriwedari land dispute. However, the form of the compromise did not yet have the agreement.

L on Thursday (9/10) of Slamet-Ponco Wibowo were indicted by Rp 7.5 of M Mantan Mayor Solo Slamet Suryanto and the former DLLAJ Ponco Wibowo Head were indicted by Rp 7.5 billion by Director PT Sinar Toyosan Jakarta related the procurement project of the machine of the motor vehicles test of DLLAJ Solo in 2002.

L on Thursday (9/10) Kampung Beton bridges ambrol crossing Bridge that connected Solo-Sukoharjo in the Beton Village, Kelurahan Sewu, Jebres, collapsed, resulting from heavy rain that splashed the Solo City, on Wednesday afternoon (8/10).

on Friday (10/10) Pursue investigated the assumption of corruption of THL Kejaksaan Negeri (Pursue) Solo investigated the assumption of free corruption of the recruitment of the daily power (THL) in the Municipal Government scope. The case it was suspected involved the Mayor and several section heads.

L on Friday (10/10) the Mayors deadline the Regional Regulations team of TSTJ Mayor Solo gave deadline to the Team of Taman Jurug Regional Regulations to complete Regional Regulations revision and handed over results to DPRD Solo, this month.

L on Saturday (11/10) PPS disappointed the achievement of the Pokja KPU Kalangan team the committee of the voice election (PPS) in the Jebres Subdistrict was disappointed with the achievement of the Team of Pokja Pencalegan KPU Solo the reason for the socialisation of the Caleg Sementara List (DCS) was considered very minimal.
http://www.solopos.co.id/sp_se...

This is in response to

cottontop — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:33:21 GMT

Carol's above CDC website post. It should have replied under it.

Thanks, Kobie

Nequals1 — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:30:00 GMT

I wrote up a contacts links post if anyone finds it useful.

I found that exact same

cottontop — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:29:59 GMT

info here:http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=26655 last paragraph.

CDC left out this little tid bit though: "Airborne transmission has also been reported."

the gpr shirt

standingfirm — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 01:07:16 GMT

ssal,

I cut out a stencil and printed GetPandemicReady.org on the back of a t-shirt. There is also a small one for the front but i didn't post that one because its hard to cut.

I have included it in the free graphics section on my website but anyone can make one for themselves.

Its a simple, cheap, and effective way to spread the word without having to say a thing. It is completely non-confrontational and it doesn't even really let on that you are prepping.

If anyone is intrigued by it they can search out the information for themselves long after you have planted the seed. It also gets the word "pandemic" into our everyday lingo. Once explanations start to be made there is already a basic familiarity of the word. A slight crack in the doorway.

Kobie suggested a Fluwiki shirt too.

I have worn mine in town, at hospitals, doctors appointments. It really is a very comfortable way to spread the word because people really don't ask questions. As I said, its a simple and safe first introduction to the concept. And people can make a choice to search for the information when they feel comfortable to do so.

A first step in bridging the digital divide.

Thanks for asking.

Thank you oh burner of the midnight oil ;-) n/t

Kobie — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:53:23 GMT

Nequals1

Kobie — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:49:52 GMT

Welcome back. Understand and love the login Id.

We found the story this moring. Still digesting all of it.

H5N1 has brought so many together in the Mid east its sad to see any language like this. Global means global.

One thought is that of the 192 members of the UN there are ways for any solution get around. The problem is getting the samples to make a solution.

Here Indonesia scares me more.

Hopefuly contries can work together and join against this common enemie for a while then get back to killing each other like educated, cooperative and civilized people. (sounds strange huh?)

Kobie

USA - Pandemic Flu Models Help Determine Food Distribution And School Closing Strategies

Kobie — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:41:04 GMT

Story
The 1918 flu pandemic killed more than 40 million people worldwide and affected persons of all age groups. While it is difficult to predict when the next influenza pandemic will occur or how severe it will be, researchers at the Georgia Institute of Technology have developed models to help organizations like the American Red Cross and Georgia Department of Education prepare emergency response plans.

source
http://www.sciencedaily.com/re...

Free to comment

Thank you

Kobie — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:32:47 GMT

Pixie,

Thank you - I really understand your post.

I too wish they had used PPE. I'm glad papers where filled out.

I'm concerned that shots will be given out with no way to track who was vaccinated. Though it has a "big brother" feel its to locate the person in case a vaccine batch turns out bad. To help find a bad batch to begin with. Or what happened in Las Vegas where needles where reused and people cross infected. Scary huh?

Thanks.

Had I shown up I would have played dumb. Well deaf and dumb. Got to be prepared for everyone ;-)

Kobie

Sorry, link:

Pixie — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:27:55 GMT

http://www.thejakartapost.com/...

day to promote hygiene in RI

Pixie — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:27:24 GMT

Emmy Fitri , The Jakarta Post , Jakarta | Sun, 10/12/2008 9:48 AM

Thousands of school children across the Indonesian archipelago will join hands with children from around the world during the first ever Global Handwashing Day on Oct. 15.

The UN-launched event is aimed at raising awareness on the need for sanitation among the poor.

Washing one's hands, a small, but often overlooked practice, is being touted as a potential cure for many diseases suffered by poor people in the world.

Quoting a 2008 World Bank data, physician Handrawan Nadesul said Indonesia suffered US$6 billion in losses per year due to poor sanitation.

"There are also deaths caused by preventable diseases. Access to sound sanitation and hygienic practices remains a luxury for many Indonesians. The data also shows that more than one fourth of the country's 220 million people still defecate in open areas, such as rivers," he said recently.

Handrawan also revealed that Indonesia still had a "high" incidence of preventable diarrhea. The Health Ministry states that out of every 1,000 people, 300 suffer from diarrhea every year.

"Diarrhea is still the number one killer of under-five-year-olds and number five for all ages."

The economic growth the country has enjoyed over the last few years has not brought with it increased awareness of hygiene and sanitation.

"One particular preventable disease, diarrhea, is closely related to individual sanitation, hygienic practices and, more importantly, healthy lifestyle," he said.

Handrawan said the community must play an active role in preventing loss of life an financial losses by improving sanitation.

"In the meantime, we are busy combating old diseases like malaria, filaria elephantiasis, TB and also the newly emerging bird flu. Those diseases too can actually be prevented through clean sanitation and a hygienic lifestyle," Handrawan said.

Citing a variety of health problems faced by the country, and the inadequacy of the health budget to deal with them, Handrawan said empowering communities with basic knowledge was the best approach.

"It's part of the primary health care issue that must be addressed by the government and decision makers," he said.

People in the country are not accustomed to washing their hands with soap, he said, adding that canvassing school children was the most effective approach to quickly raising hygiene awareness in Indonesia.

[snip]

The Oct. 15 hand-washing movement is expected to encourage children to do the same, to knock on doors, spread awareness of hygiene and to become champions of a better, cleaner and healthier lifestyle by simply learning how to best brush bacteria and dirt from their hands.

Lets muddy the koolaid - 6 months after what?

Kobie — Mon, 13 Oct 2008 00:24:39 GMT

AlohaOR,

Yea these people are still starting IMO.

I like the idea that "drills where mandated" - whoo hoo!

But can they say when the "6 Months to get a vaccine" clock starts?

6 months after hitting the US? 6 Months after hitting the UK? 6 Months after B2H2H. Hmm wait we have had that one.

Will the virus stay stable enough over six monts. Personal fear with no base.

Soo much to consider.

Kobie